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Permission Model #791
Description
Permission Model initial issue
Hello everybody!
Following up on the Security Model initiative and the Mini summit (Next-10) in April seems and consensus that Node.js aims to have a security permission system, thus, avoiding third-party libraries to access machine resources without user consent.
This system was previously researched by James Snell and Anna Henningsen[1], which resulted in an excellent material as a starting point.
For context, the material is available through those links:
- Adding a permission system to Node.js blog post
- [WIP] src,lib: policy permissions node#33504
- process: initial impl of feature access control node#22112
Constraints
This security model is not bulletproof, which means, there are constraints we agree on before implementing this system:
- It’s not a sandbox, we assume the user trusts in the running code
- Example: the user sets the flag
--allow-fs-readwithout specifying a scope. Any external library can make use of it leading to a potential exploit. In this case, with the user's consent.
- Example: the user sets the flag
- No break-changes are ideal.
- It must add a low/no overhead when disabled and low overhead when enabled.
Points to be discussed
This is a big topic that could lead to several discussions topics. In order to avoid unnecessary discussions at this moment, let's use the following 3 topics as boundaries for this first iteration.
- Should it be
processor module scoped?
The effort to make it work with modules is worth it? Example:
{
"name": "package-name",
"version": "1.0.0",
"description": "",
"main": "index.js",
"permissions": [
"fs"
]
}Then the user should provide permission for each module (as you need to do in your smartphone apps)
- Should the user be able to change the permissions in runtime?
If yes, how does it behave in an Asynchronous Context? Example:
const { setTimeout } = require('timers/promises');
console.log(process.policy.check('net')); // true
process.nextTick(() => {
process.policy.deny('net');
setTimeout(1000).then(() => {
console.log(process.policy.check('net')); // false
});
});
process.nextTick(() => {
setTimeout(1000).then(() => {
console.log(process.policy.check('net')); // ???
});
});- What would be the desired granularity level?
--policy-deny=fsor--policy-deny=fs.in?--policy-deny=netor--policy-deny=net.tcp.in?- Should the user be capable to restrict specific TCP ports, for instance, denying all inbound packages at port 3000?
- Is
Denogranularity enough?--allow-read--allow-net
Activity
vdeturckheim commentedon Apr 20, 2022
Thanks for opening the topic - for questions 1 and 2, I have two concerns on the direction on the answers:
tbh, I am more scared by the performance hit or feasibility of a module-scoped approach. Do we have guidelines on how to reach that?
If so, we need to find a way to make sure potential malicious code does not rewrite policies to its own interests at runtime.
RafaelGSS commentedon Apr 20, 2022
Yes, being module-scoped certainly would add such as big complexity. I'm not sure about the performance impacts, though. I think is feasible to look at a possible implementation and see if it's, at least, reasonable to do in the core.
Yes, good point.
Maybe we can start with an MVP and then start iterating over it when the need arises. What do you think? I mean, I can start an MVP with:
And then, along this discussion, I can see the viability of the further updates
UlisesGascon commentedon Apr 20, 2022
Thanks for the thread @RafaelGSS! 🙌
I suggest process model. We keep a simpler scope for the MVP.
There are some complex scenarios if we want to support modules, as seems hard deal with a big dependency tree like:
My projects dependes on
package-aandpackage-b. I want thatlibrary-acan modify files but the opposite forpackage-b, then my settings for modules are:[ { "name": "package-a", "permissions": [ "fs" ] }, { "name": "package-b", "permissions": null } ]But then
package-aandpackage-bdepends onpackage-c, how does the modules policy works in this scenario ? Because frompackage-ashould be fine to usefsbut not frompackage-bI agree with @vdeturckheim malicious packages can do modifications. In the other hand we might need that flexibility in some cases, so... maybe we can assume that by default is not possible to modify the policies without restarting the application at least you specifically allow that behaviour (and assume the risk) by using an specific flag like
--allow-policy-changes+1 to Deno model (at least for the first iteration) and then find if we really have a solid feedback to add more complex features.
jasnell commentedon Apr 20, 2022
For 1, I think the process-scoped is the only viable answer. Module-scoped is going to be far too complex and disruptive to do, and there's really no clear must have use case that would justify it.
For 2, I would argue that a model where permissions can only be restricted at runtime would be appropriate. That is, the process starts with a given set of permissions, within the code, there are options for restricting permissions further (either something like
process.permissions.deny('net')that immediately turns it off for the entire process or something likeprocess.permissions.deny('net', () => { ... })where the callback passed in runs with the more restrictive... with my preference being on the former).For 3, keeping the model similar to Deno's is great but it's going to be very difficult to change later if we don't make it granular enough. Let's be sure to give this particular bit a good deal of thought.
bengl commentedon Apr 20, 2022
Multiple threads could run with different policy (with caveats), but that's not terribly different from process-level policies. So yes, process scoped. Module-level policies aren't possible to enforce without non-trivial barriers between them and even at that point you run into logical nightmares as pointed out by @UlisesGascon.
Much like with other well-known and well-used permissions systems, code ought to be able to decide it can drop privileges, but never be able to grant itself any expanded privileges.
It should be applied synchronously, much like other things that modify process-level behaviour do today. For example, changing environment variables or using
process.setuid()are synchronous operations that take effect immediately. Attempting to have policies follow through with async context (likeAsyncLocalStoragedoes) means invokingasync_hooksand the performance hit from that, and ensuring the correctness ofasync_hooks, even in weird security scenarios, which is non-trivial at the very least.If I'm reading the example correctly, both calls to
check()happen at least 1000ms afterdeny()has been called, so under my suggestion, the second check would also returnfalse.Filters on any given API should eventually give the ability to filter on individual operations and individual resources. For prior art on this, see https://web.archive.org/web/20190821102906/https://intrinsic.com/docs/latest/index.html, which describes a (now-defunct, but previously working) policy system for Node.js.
An MVP blocking entire subsystems is fine for an MVP so long as the configuration format doesn't preclude any further detail in filtering.
mcollina commentedon Apr 21, 2022
I think we must provide some level of restrictions on the file system or what host/port a process can connect or listen to.
As an example, I might want to limit the folder in which a process write files to the tree of folders from the nearest package.json. This will severely limit the surface attack of a malicious dependency.
vdeturckheim commentedon Apr 21, 2022
What were actually the points that prevented the previous iterations. Given the current discussion, I am under the impression that at least one prior PR did most of what we are heading to?
jasnell commentedon Apr 21, 2022
The thing that stopped the prior effort was lack of engagement... We couldn't get anyone else to engage in the conversation enough to move it forward. Hopefully the timing is better this time
RaisinTen commentedon Apr 21, 2022
What would happen if we start node with
--policy-deny=netand the main process spawns a child process? Will the child process be able to access the net?jasnell commentedon Apr 21, 2022
@RaisinTen ... see the discussion on that point here:
In other words, a process that has
--policy-deny=netwill not be able to spawn a child process by default. If the user explicitly allows it to spawn a child process, then it will be the users responsibility to pass along the correct arguments.Qard commentedon Apr 22, 2022
Personally I would be really interested in some sort of module-scoped solution, though I feel like that would likely be very complicated to manage given you'd have to handle permission delegation across the dependency graph. You'd probably need not only permissions to use certain things in a module but then also permission to delegate those permissions to its dependencies, and the config would likely get super complicated.
I feel like process-scoped permissions are too simplistic though. A user might turn on net access because one module needs it but then some other unrelated module does something nefarious and doesn't get blocked because net was allowed. 🤔
Perhaps an import/require-based system where a module needs permission to load another module? So it would just be unable to attempt to load a module it's not supposed to be able to use, throwing a permission error on import/require. It wouldn't be too terribly difficult to specify something like --allow=http:fastify,ws to specify that the http module should be allowed to be used directly by the fastify or ws modules, but no others.
RafaelGSS commentedon Apr 22, 2022
As described by others, I'm not sure if the complexity to handle module-scoped permissions is worth it. It seems the user can prevent the above behavior by specifying the allowed
netport. For instance,--allow-http=3000, then even if another unrelated module does something nefarious, it wouldn't be allowed due the port is already in use & only 3000 is allowed.RafaelGSS commentedon Apr 22, 2022
It seems to have a consensus in a MVP with:
--policy-deny-net||--policy-deny-net=3000) - (--policy-deny-fs||policy-deny-fs=/usr/sbin)Are we all in agreement on that? In case, I'll create a fresh PR (probably using most of the work @jasnell did in: nodejs/node#33504) and then we can iterate over that.
EDIT: Regarding the nomenclature (
policy-deny=orpolicy-deny-net) we can discuss in the PR.bengl commentedon Apr 22, 2022
@Qard
Any permission system with support for multiple sets of permissions requires sufficient separation between the permission sets and the units of isolation they apply to. This means the units of isolation cannot communicate with each other except through strictly controlled interfaces (meaning no shared objects, not even globals). Without this, privileges can easily leak between the units of isolation. We simply do not have this between modules, and any sensible approach to having this between modules requires massive changes in the way we both import and call code from other modules.
To illustrate this, consider a module
a.mjsand moduleb.mjs. Assume that through whatever permission system we create, we giveaaccess tonet, but deny that tob. A poorly written or maliciousacould just assign all the relevantnetmethods to the global, and thenbcan use it.A common suggestion is to track module usage via the stack, but this is not performant at all. Even if it were, there are other ways to share functionality and have the calling module appear to be the one with adequate permissions. You'd have to block transitive access, and then the number of related problems here starts expanding.
Qard commentedon Apr 22, 2022
Sure, there's likely always going to be ways to get around it. But process-scoped just means rather than needing to do some environment hacking if you aren't the specific module the user intended to have access, you will just have access automatically by inheriting it from the process-wide config needed for something else. So you really aren't protecting much of anything if users are just always turning on net access. It seems to me that to adequately control I/O you need either module-level blocking of use in some way or super granular process-wide control of interfaces like saying http requests can only be made to this specific list of URLs or file system access only allows reading these specific files and writing these other specific files.
I don't think we can escape significant complexity without making any sort of policy system essentially useless.
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RafaelGSS commentedon Dec 30, 2022
Hi @tniessen! A few things changed before the PR implementation. I'll surely review it.
The permission model should mitigate supply chain attacks if used correctly by npm/yarn/pnpm scripts. Of course, Supply Chain Attack is a broad attack and the permission model will only help in resource access.
Basically, my intention with this statement was to avoid users thinking they will be able to run any code when the permission model is enabled. Although the resources must be restricted, there are many other attack vectors. But, I think I should remove this statement since it's somewhat unrelated to the feature itself.
tniessen commentedon Dec 30, 2022
Thanks for the clarification @RafaelGSS :)
My understanding is that npm would have to at least disable native add-ons and child processes in order for this security mechanism to have any effect. So would this only be helpful for the subset of
npm installexecutions that don't work with--ignore-scriptsbut that also don't use native add-ons or child processes? And in those cases, npm would have to fine-tune permissions to prevent, for example, uploading credentials from disk?Also, it sounds like this mechanism does not have any effect on supply chain attacks that don't become active during installation but rather during normal execution, unless the user can disable subprocesses and native add-ons for the application as well.
RafaelGSS commentedon Jan 9, 2023
When using the permission model (
--experimental-permission), child processes and worker threads are disabled by default -- we are discussing about native addons, see nodejs/node#44004 (comment)).So, we haven't thought too much about its interoperability with package managers. My intention is to land the permission model targeting runtime usage and allowing its expansion easily. I'm pretty sure once it gets landed we'll discuss the next steps to implement it by default on package managers. Ideally, each package should provide which install access it should have (in the case of postinstall scripts) and the developer should agree on that.
That's partially correct. Although I agree that it requires work from package managers to specify the right flags for
npm installcommand, the subprocess and native add-ons will be disabled by default (when using the permission model). As mentioned in the PR description, this is the foundation for all further permission logic, I'm pretty sure after releasing it and collecting the feedback from the ecosystem, we will have a better vision.mcollina commentedon Jan 11, 2023
I might have lost the reasoning.. why it's not possible to support worker_threads?
RafaelGSS commentedon Jan 11, 2023
After talking with @addaleax and @jasnell about propagating the rules to the worker thread, we agreed that besides adding unnecessary complexity, it's too risky to do it (at least in this first iteration).
I believe it can be a thing for the next iteration, but we need to be careful with this implementation.
jasnell commentedon Jan 11, 2023
Definitely agree. Let's handle worker threads as a separate pr.
mcollina commentedon Jan 11, 2023
That's ok, thanks for the clarification!
tniessen commentedon Feb 15, 2023
@RafaelGSS Before nodejs/node#44004 lands, I want to say that I am having trouble following the arguments in this discussion. This is somewhat reiterating my concerns from last year's #791 (comment).
The main reason for implementing this at all is, as has been stated multiple times, to constrain the resources that can be accessed by supply chain attacks:
Yet, integration with package managers has not been discussed at all as far as I can tell. There are high-level ideas but I have yet to see specific implementation plans.
I think we can (and should) discuss some of the obvious challenges before landing any permission model.
For example, npm scripts in a
package.jsonfile are rather arbitrary shell commands, and npm merely adjusts thePATHenvironment variable to add executable files withinnode_modules/.binto thePATHso that they can be used by the shell command.It is extremely common to have scripts such as
"node src/post-install.js", i.e., invoking node is often not up to the package manager but rather to the script, thus, it is up to the shell command which arguments to pass to the process. Similarly, the executable scripts withinnode_modules/.bin, at least on Linux, are regular JavaScript files with an added shebang (or, more precisely, symbolic links to rather arbitrary files), and it is non-trivial to pass additional arguments.As @brianleroux wrote in #791 (comment), it may not be likely that this finds adoption in production environments, where granular access control through more mature and complete features is widely available. In development environments, however, it is very common to have an npm test script such as
"ava"(or any other test runner). Not only would npm somehow have to pass arguments to the shebang line that the ava binary contains, but many test runners, including ava, rely on process isolation and thus happily spawn child processes for separate tests, which either has to be prevented or will allow circumventing all restrictions. It seems that securingnpm testthrough the proposed permission model would require significant changes to Node.js, to package managers, and perhaps even topackage.jsonfiles and the ecosystem in general.Similarly, I made this assumption above:
Following this, I am wondering what the main use cases for scripts are that we hope to cover with this. Compilation, for example, often resorts to child processes, which is incompatible with the proposed permission model. The npm documentation even contains examples for running
makethrough npm scripts, which entirely bypasses any permission model within Node.js.As @Qard stated above:
Beyond said proof-of-concept, we should have at least a rough roadmap for what we hope to accomplish. Otherwise, we are adding a lot of complexity and attack surface to Node.js without a good justification.
Qard commentedon Feb 16, 2023
Perhaps we could introduce a new parallel to the "scripts" section of a package.json something like "tasks" which only accepts js files and that can use whatever permissions are provided when telling node to run the task? For example, a package.json with my-task mapped to ./tasks/my-task.js would be run with something like node task my-task and it would internally do the equivalent of node ./tasks/my-task.js automatically. With node task --allow-whatever my-task it would apply the allow-whatever permission. Package managers could be responsible for narrowing those permissions appropriately in their own installing/running of each task. Could probably even make it runnable as a specialized worker thread so package managers can run each task within their own process and narrow task permissions from their own permission set.
In any case, I feel like the level of complexity and ecosystem impact here probably warrants an actual in-depth RFC covering the steps from initial implementation to the ultimate goal of how permissions will be used in the future when it's "complete".
RafaelGSS commentedon Feb 17, 2023
@tniessen thanks for raising this discussion. I will try to answer your questions inline and in the end, I'll share a bit about my point of view on this feature.
This information isn't totally accurate. But that's my fault. I've used supply chain attacks as an example because it's easy to understand the motivations and the intention of this model. However, this feature will not solve supply chain attacks entirely, at least not in this first iteration. As you described very well:
There are some edge cases uncovered by this feature yet and I agree that the statement of solving supply chain attacks doesn't apply totally.
However, this PR is just the gateway for something bigger, and I totally agree with you that we should be discussing how to integrate it into the ecosystem, that's on me. I've been working on this and my plan right after landing this on the 'main' as experimental is to create a roadmap, for instance, we should support other resources (net, os) and npm hooks.
We can also argue that the utility of this feature is in the development workflow, as you said, usually, production environments are surrounded by tools that supersede it. However, I don't think having a permission model in Node.js is useless, I think this is a good addition to runtime access management. For instance, denying access to folders/files in runtime or as prevention to modules that perform any kind of file system access during runtime. Until package managers adopt it as mitigation, the utility of this implementation will live in runtime. But, as I said, this is just a gateway, I'm pretty sure once we land it and see the adoption we can explore several strategies around this. And well, if that proves useless or not worth it to maintain, I will be the first one to request its removal. As an experimental module, we can do it without issues.
For what it's worth, the permission model was previously researched by @addaleax and @jasnell, and we have iterated over it a few times since last year. If you folks want to share your point of view, it would be much appreciated.
naugtur commentedon Feb 17, 2023
Let me help with addressing the need/usecase for this as I'm working on a parallel implementation (and also a second generation of it) and running it "in production".
Here's a MetaMask repository with a policy (that's what permissions specification is called there) that's generated and enforced by LavaMoat
https://github.com/MetaMask/metamask-extension/tree/develop/lavamoat/build-system
LavaMoat consists of 2 main tools:
For those of you who may enjoy a video format: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IE4KzGdsUI
While it is not currently possible to apply a detailed policy to whatever runs as a postinstall script, turning them off by default is quite effective.
If we control the runtime environment and want to defend against malicious code being added to the software in our dependencies (especially things we actually call) - the policy is hard to bypass when running in hardened javascript (SES lockdown)
So yes, there's reasons to have this.
RafaelGSS commentedon Mar 2, 2023
The Permission Model was landed in the
mainbranch. A roadmap issue was created #898 to discuss the future of this feature. Therefore, I'm closing it as completed. Thank you all for your valuable input.luislobo commentedon Apr 22, 2023
Sorry to post on an old thread, may be just direct me to the right place.
With this Permission Model, would it make sense to start also defining permissions in package.json modules?
I thought of that once one of those NPM security issues where an author started deleting files because of politics.
After searching found a blog post from @davidgilbertson https://david-gilbertson.medium.com/npm-package-permissions-an-idea-441a02902d9b discussing about it.
Anyway, again, may be just to be pointed to the right thread/topic/slack/discord to contribute?
Thank you
tniessen commentedon Apr 22, 2023
@luislobo Permissions are only supported at the process scope, that is, permission cannot be granted for some modules only. However, you might be interested in the existing policies feature, which are scoped to files/modules.