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Build agent creates a kanban grouped by a field it just added without disclosing that every existing record will be invisible on the board — extend the honest-disclosure contract (the rollup/backfill precedent) to the view face #13693
Provenance: split from objectstack-ai/cloud#1818 (filed by the maintainer from the two-plane rig, pins 8c82289/7a5da141, scenario battle R7) by the repo:cloud execution seat (objectstack#6026, session session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R30). This is the builder-side half; the view-side half (kanban fallback lane) is #13692 (repo:objectui). The two are independent — either landing alone improves the outcome, both landing is the full fix.
Measured behavior
In battle R7 the build agent added a 「客户等级」(A/B/C) select field to an existing customer table AND created a kanban grouped by it, in one request. Both artifacts were built correctly — but the resulting board renders "no cards" in all three lanes while its footer counts the 20 existing records, because a newly added group field has no values on existing rows and the kanban has no fallback lane.
The ask
When the build agent creates a view grouped by a field that (a) it created in the same request, or (b) measurably has no values on existing records, it should proactively disclose: existing records will not appear on this board until the field is filled (and offer the obvious follow-ups — backfill, or a fallback lane once the view supports one). The maintainer's source card names the precedent explicitly (untranslated):
i.e. this extends the already-ruled honest-disclosure posture (a declared capability whose day-one behavior surprises the operator must say so at creation time) from computed fields to views. Landing surface is the build/blueprint side (service-ai / the blueprint generator's disclosure path) — triage to confirm the exact seam.
Repro: run-stack → battle R1 builds the CRM → R7 adds the field + kanban → open the customer-grade board.
Triage: lands in cloud (packages/service-ai-studio/, the build agent) — NOT in this repo. pm:queue + repo:cloud, type Task. Reader: the repo:cloud execution seat (#6026), which consumes label:repo:cloud + pm:queue from this repo.
⚠️The landing surface named on the card is wrong, and it changes which repo owns this. The card says "Landing surface is the build/blueprint side (service-ai / the blueprint generator's disclosure path) — triage to confirm the exact seam." Confirmed against origin/main (75b3bdc):
probe
result
service-ai anywhere in objectstack
0 files
service-ai-studio anywhere in objectstack
0 files
control: packages/services/service-analytics/
107 files (so the query resolves)
Zero-hit is only a reading because the control hit. The two AI agent packages are both absent from this repo.
Where the build agent actually lives, per this repo's own audit (docs/audits/2026-06-ask-build-agent-development-assessment.md:29):
build agent — cloud packages/service-ai-studio/
(and :16 puts the ask agent at OSS packages/services/service-ai/ — a path that no longer exists here either, so that line is itself stale. Not this card's problem; noted so the next reader does not trust it.)
⇒ By the file-at-destination criterion (strip objectstack out and does the card still stand? — it does; nothing in the ask touches this repo), this is a cloud card, not a seam card. It keeps the established repo:cloud-in-objectstack form that the cloud seat already consumes, rather than a transfer, to stay consistent with its ~10 sibling cards and with #13692 (the repo:objectui half of the same split).
Type rationale (mechanical boundary test): does not violate a declared contract — the honest-disclosure posture is ruled for the rollup/backfill face and the card explicitly asks to extend it to the view face; and it does not widen an accept set or a public surface. Residual ⇒ Task. If the executing seat reads the ruled posture as already binding on views (i.e. declared≠enforced ⇒ Bug), raise it with pm:retriage rather than relabelling.
⛔ No domain:*: single-lane repo — the repo:* label is the routing, per the multi-repo split.
Framing correction (repo:cloud seat, session session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R31), from the maintainer's re-verification on the source card (objectstack-ai/cloud#1818, 2026-08-31 13:30Z): the kanban fallback lane EXISTS (objectui#2792 — trailing KANBAN_UNCOLUMNED_ID lane, i18n kanban.uncategorized, DOM measured ["A","B","C","未分类"] on the rig). The sibling card #13692 is retracted as premise-false.
This card still stands — the maintainer's correction says so explicitly (「生成器侧的诚实披露(原方向 2,仍成立)」) — but the disclosure wording this card asks for changes:
NOT "existing records will be invisible on the board" — they all land in the trailing 未分类/Uncategorized lane, which on a board with several value lanes is pushed outside the first viewport, so the first screen reads as "several empty lanes + a non-zero footer count" ≈ "my data is gone".
The build agent's disclosure should therefore say: existing records have no value for the new group field and will all sit in the trailing Uncategorized lane until filled (offer the follow-up: backfill the field, or fill values as records are triaged).
⛔ Constraint from the same maintainer comment, binding on any implementation: do NOT reorder the Uncategorized lane to the front — 「它是收容列不是主列,排在末尾是对的;为它做特例排序会让正常看板的列序变得不可预测」.
Seam correction (repo:cloud seat, session session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R31): the disclosure's actual landing surface turned out to be the cloud repo's packages/service-ai-studio (blueprint tools), not this repo — and the maintainer has implemented it directly: objectstack-ai/cloud#1821 ("a board over a just-created group field must disclose the 未分类 lane"), which also records the corrected framing (fallback lane exists; renderer is not at fault; generator-side disclosure only). This card will be closed as implemented-elsewhere once that PR merges; if it doesn't land, this card stands as the tracking anchor.
Closing as implemented elsewhere (repo:cloud seat, session session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R31): the maintainer's objectstack-ai/cloud#1821 MERGED 2026-08-31 14:47Z, delivering the generator-side disclosure at the real seam (cloud's packages/service-ai-studio blueprint tools) with the corrected framing this card's comment recorded. Nothing remains for this repo. Provenance chain: cloud#1818 (measurement) → correction on that card → cloud#1821 (fix, merged).
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os-warren commentedon Aug 31, 2026
Triage: lands in
cloud(packages/service-ai-studio/, thebuildagent) — NOT in this repo.pm:queue+repo:cloud, typeTask. Reader: therepo:cloudexecution seat (#6026), which consumeslabel:repo:cloud+pm:queuefrom this repo.origin/main(75b3bdc):service-aianywhere in objectstackservice-ai-studioanywhere in objectstackpackages/services/service-analytics/Zero-hit is only a reading because the control hit. The two AI agent packages are both absent from this repo.
Where the
buildagent actually lives, per this repo's own audit (docs/audits/2026-06-ask-build-agent-development-assessment.md:29):(and
:16puts theaskagent at OSSpackages/services/service-ai/— a path that no longer exists here either, so that line is itself stale. Not this card's problem; noted so the next reader does not trust it.)⇒ By the file-at-destination criterion (strip objectstack out and does the card still stand? — it does; nothing in the ask touches this repo), this is a cloud card, not a seam card. It keeps the established
repo:cloud-in-objectstack form that the cloud seat already consumes, rather than a transfer, to stay consistent with its ~10 sibling cards and with #13692 (therepo:objectuihalf of the same split).Type rationale (mechanical boundary test): does not violate a declared contract — the honest-disclosure posture is ruled for the rollup/backfill face and the card explicitly asks to extend it to the view face; and it does not widen an accept set or a public surface. Residual ⇒
Task. If the executing seat reads the ruled posture as already binding on views (i.e. declared≠enforced ⇒Bug), raise it withpm:retriagerather than relabelling.⛔ No
domain:*: single-lane repo — therepo:*label is the routing, per the multi-repo split.Generated by Claude Code
baozhoutao commentedon Aug 31, 2026
Framing correction (repo:cloud seat, session
session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R31), from the maintainer's re-verification on the source card (objectstack-ai/cloud#1818, 2026-08-31 13:30Z): the kanban fallback lane EXISTS (objectui#2792 — trailingKANBAN_UNCOLUMNED_IDlane, i18nkanban.uncategorized, DOM measured["A","B","C","未分类"]on the rig). The sibling card #13692 is retracted as premise-false.This card still stands — the maintainer's correction says so explicitly (「生成器侧的诚实披露(原方向 2,仍成立)」) — but the disclosure wording this card asks for changes:
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baozhoutao commentedon Aug 31, 2026
Seam correction (repo:cloud seat, session
session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R31): the disclosure's actual landing surface turned out to be the cloud repo'spackages/service-ai-studio(blueprint tools), not this repo — and the maintainer has implemented it directly: objectstack-ai/cloud#1821 ("a board over a just-created group field must disclose the 未分类 lane"), which also records the corrected framing (fallback lane exists; renderer is not at fault; generator-side disclosure only). This card will be closed as implemented-elsewhere once that PR merges; if it doesn't land, this card stands as the tracking anchor.Generated by Claude Code
baozhoutao commentedon Aug 31, 2026
Closing as implemented elsewhere (repo:cloud seat, session
session_01EzWYDkwr6WEwDGhMH1Jzuq, R31): the maintainer's objectstack-ai/cloud#1821 MERGED 2026-08-31 14:47Z, delivering the generator-side disclosure at the real seam (cloud'spackages/service-ai-studioblueprint tools) with the corrected framing this card's comment recorded. Nothing remains for this repo. Provenance chain: cloud#1818 (measurement) → correction on that card → cloud#1821 (fix, merged).Generated by Claude Code