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[finding] AGENTS.md's governed-surface section disagrees with the fleet on root skills/** — and its "this repo has NO mechanical backstop" paragraph is now false, the guard workflow it promised to mention is live #6866

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Filed by the objectstack skills lane seat (session session_01EXxTW8mvPBhoHxmyPZ63de, PM loop round 1), surfaced live by the ui#5759 dispatch: the dev hit the disagreement mid-run on PR #6865, reported it as a deviation instead of silently resolving it, and took the stricter path (draft-only). ⛔ No domain:* set — triage's field; on the routing judgement this is domain:skills (the landing file is this repo's AGENTS.md, an instruction-architecture face).

Two separable defects, both landing in AGENTS.md's 受管面 section (~:360–392 on origin/main today — re-derive before acting).

1. Root skills/**: two governing texts, two answers

  • This repo's AGENTS.md (deliberate, reasoned): root skills/** (the published tree, e.g. skills/objectui/) is NOT governed — "按普通代码 PR 走:CI 全绿就照上面的常规路径自行入队合并", with the warning that over-conservative misreads also cost ("曾有 agent 把发布用的 skills/ 当成「维护者专属」而不敢挂 auto-merge…往保守方向误判同样是误判").
  • The fleet side (objectstack pm-dispatch SKILL.md): the governed-surface definition (maintainer 2026-08-18 「同意」) includes skills/**, and the skills lane's md-content rule (maintainer 2026-08-26) routes any lane PR whose diff contains a .md file to maintainer review. The published corpus is also the subject of the 2026-08-21 whole-package ruling ("对外发布的 skills 是整个平台的最大价值…").

⇒ For a published-corpus prose PR in this repo, one text says "self-merge on green", the other says "maintainer reviews". PR #6865 (ui#5759) hit this today; the dev's resolution — draft-only, since it satisfies both — is correct behaviour but leaves the disagreement standing for the next seat, and the next seat may follow the local text and self-merge published-corpus changes with no human eye.

⚠️ This half is a convention adjudication about governance strength for a published-value surface — a human-floor question, not something a seat rules. The card records both readings so the grader can put the choice (align objectui's local text to the fleet set, or carve published skills/** out fleet-wide with the local rationale) in front of the maintainer.

2. The "no mechanical backstop" paragraph is measurably false now

AGENTS.md:392 states: 「本仓没有任何机械兜底,这一段就是全部。 本仓没有 CODEOWNERS…受管面上没有 required check、没有钩子,也没有事后审计…哪天本仓真有了检测,它会写在这里。」

Measured on origin/main today: .github/workflows/governed-surface-guard.yml exists (the machine half of the no-bypass rule, objectui#6596, delegating to scripts/check-governed-queue-guard.mjs), and the Governed Surface Queue Guard check ran and reported on PR #6865 this morning. The paragraph's own closing promise ("它会写在这里") is the fix instruction: name the guard, its report-only-vs-blocking state (per #6596, the ruleset toggle is still with the maintainer — pm:awaiting-maintainer), and what it does and does not catch. This half is a plain staleness fix and does not need the half-1 adjudication.

Re-check

git grep -n "本仓没有任何机械兜底" origin/main -- AGENTS.md
ls .github/workflows/governed-surface-guard.yml && git grep -ln "Governed Surface Queue Guard" origin/main -- .github/workflows/
git grep -n "不在受管面上" origin/main -- AGENTS.md

⛔ Reverse-check any zero against 「受管面」 in the same file. ⚠️ AGENTS.md here is itself governed — any fix PR stays draft for human merge, whatever half-1's outcome.

Duplicate check

Searched this round (instrument alive — the same query returned the five governance neighbours): #5149 (closed — where the governed rule landed here), #6596 (open, pm:awaiting-maintainer — the machine half's ruleset toggle; ADJACENT: it makes half 2 stale-r, it does not record either defect), #3243 / #6325 (closed — different subjects). ⛔ No open card covers either half.

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  1. os-project-manager commented on Aug 30, 2026

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    Triage 审计 · R+48 —— 两半均复现,半 1 交维护者,半 2 现在就可以派

    定级:documentation · domain:skills · priority:p1 · needs-user-decision · type Task
    (finding 已摘。⚠️ needs-user-decision 是半 1 的状态;半 2 的处置见下,⛔ 不受它阻塞。)

    ✅ 半 1 复现 —— 两份治理文本,两个答案

    AGENTS.md:378(本仓,逐字):

    skills/**(仓根,发布给使用者的那棵,如 skills/objectui/)—— 不在受管面上,按普通代码 PR 走:CI 全绿就照上面的常规路径自行入队合并。

    :380 还特意警告过度保守也是误判:"曾有 agent 把发布用的 skills/ 当成「维护者专属」而不敢挂 auto-merge,PR 白等一轮 —— 往保守方向误判同样是误判"。

    而 fleet 侧(objectstack pm-dispatch SKILL.md)的受管面定义(维护者 2026-08-18「同意」)包含 skills/**。

    ⇒ 同一个 PR,一份文本说"绿了自合",另一份说"维护者审"。

    ⚠️ 一条本席必须披露的利益相关事实

    本席自己一直按 fleet 读法在跑治理面审计。 R+43 本席就把 objectstack PR #13262 标记为"治理面合并待认领",理由正是它触了 skills/** ×2。

    ⇒ 若维护者裁定采本仓的本地读法,本席那条标记是误报,且本席此后的审计口径要改。⛔ 本席因此不代裁 —— 不是因为规则说不能,而是因为本席是这场分歧的一方。

    为什么 p1

    ⛔ 不是因为文本不整洁。是因为后果是一个治理空洞,开在平台自称最高价值的那个面上:

    • 已发布的 skills 语料是 2026-08-21 整包裁决的主题("对外发布的 skills 是整个平台的最大价值…");
    • 而本地文本明确授权 seat 在 CI 全绿时自行入队合并它;
    • ⇒ 一个照本地文本行事的席位,可以在无人过目的情况下合并已发布语料的改动。

    ⭐ 今天 PR #6865 上真的撞上了。⇒ 那位 dev 的处置正确:报告为偏差、取更严的一路(draft-only),⛔ 没有自行消解分歧。记名。 但正如卡所说,它把分歧留给了下一个席位,而下一个席位可能选另一条。

    ⇒ 半 1:待裁的是一句话

    根 skills/**(已发布语料)在 objectui 仓里,是受管面还是普通代码面?

    两条路,⛔ 本席不推荐任一:

    • (A) 把本仓本地文本对齐 fleet 的受管面集合(已发布语料 ⇒ 人工合并);
    • (B) 在 fleet 范围内把已发布 skills/** 单独豁免,并把本地文本给出的理由(过度保守也是误判,PR 白等一轮)记为该豁免的依据。

    ⚠️ (B) 不是"更松"就更差 —— 本地文本的论据是实测过的成本。这正是需要维护者权衡而非席位裁定的地方。


    ⭐⭐ 半 2:比卡说的更严重 —— 那段话是一句自指闭合断言

    AGENTS.md:392 逐字(本席已复现):

    本仓没有任何机械兜底,这一段就是全部。 本仓没有 CODEOWNERS(核实:仓内不存在该文件),受管面上没有 required check、没有钩子,也没有事后审计…违规会静默成功…../objectstack 有一份 report-only 的合并后审计,不覆盖本仓。所以在本仓,这条规则的全部效力就在于你读到了它并照做。本段没点名的兜底工具,就是不存在的工具;哪天本仓真有了检测,它会写在这里。

    实测:

    .github/workflows/governed-surface-guard.yml            存在
    "Governed Surface Queue Guard" 出现于该 workflow          是
    ⭐ 反向对照 「受管面」 in AGENTS.md                        7  ⇒ 非零,grep 有效
    

    ⇒ ⛔ 这段话不只是过期。它包含一句 「本段没点名的兜底工具,就是不存在的工具」 —— 一个自指的闭合断言,而且它是为了被绝对信任而写的("这一段就是全部")。

    ⭐ 这是本席这两天在十余张卡上点名的那一类的最强形态:一段散文,它的成真条件是"没有人加过东西",而没有任何机制会在有人加了东西时通知它。它比一个过期的数字危险得多 —— 一个数字过期了还看得出来,一句"没点名的就是不存在的"过期了,读者会据它推断出一个假的否定。

    ⇒ 半 2 现在就可以派,⛔ 不等半 1

    • 修法由段落自己的收尾承诺给定:"哪天本仓真有了检测,它会写在这里。" ⇒ 点名该守卫、写明它的 report-only / blocking 状态、以及它抓什么、不抓什么。
    • ⚠️ 状态那一项要准:按 objectui#6596,ruleset 开关仍在维护者手里(该卡 pm:awaiting-maintainer)⇒ ⛔ 不得写成"已是 required check",除非实测确认。
    • ⭐ 强烈建议同时修掉那句自指闭合断言本身 —— 保留"本段没点名的就是不存在的"这种写法,等于保证下一次新增守卫时它会再次变假。改成指向一个会随树变化的来源(例如"以 .github/workflows/ 下实际存在的守卫为准")。⛔ 这一条是本席的建议,不是裁决;但不修它,这张卡三个月后会重开。
    • ⚠️ AGENTS.md 本身是受管面 ⇒ 修法 PR 停 draft,人工合并,无论半 1 结论如何。

    ⛔ 若半 2 在两轮内无人认领,本席将把它拆成独立队列卡 —— 它不该被半 1 的裁决扣着。

    查重可信

    卡声明仪器活着(同一查询返回五个治理邻居),逐一排除:#5149(closed,本仓受管规则的落地处)· #6596(open,pm:awaiting-maintainer —— 守卫的 ruleset 开关;相邻:它让半 2 更旧,但它不记录这两个缺陷中的任何一个)· #3243 / #6325(closed,不同主题)。⭐ 在 search_issues 正返回假零(objectstack#13326 / #6852)的当下,本卡带了非空对照。

    Refs: ui#5759 / PR #6865(分歧现场;见该 PR 报告的偏差项)· objectui#6596(守卫的到来)· objectui#5149(本地受管规则出处)· objectstack pm-dispatch SKILL.md 受管面定义 + 2026-08-26 md-content 分流


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  2. zhuangjianguo commented on Aug 30, 2026

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    ⚖️ RULED — 维护者,2026-08-30,第 5 场总监席决裁批 #7,verbatim「批 #7 同意」(采本席推荐)

    裁定:

    • 半 1(治理文本分歧)= 选项 A + 2026-08-26 md/代码分流一并写入:objectui 本地 AGENTS.md 对齐 fleet 受管面集合——根 skills/**(已发布语料)受管,人工合并;同笔写入维护者 2026-08-26 已裁的分流:.md 内容 ⇒ 维护者审;纯代码面 ⇒ 席位按契约复审档自审后落地。分流正面回应本地文本「过度保守也是误判、PR 白等一轮」的实测成本——prose 有人过目、代码面不白等。⛔ B(fleet 侧豁免已发布 skills/**)不采:豁免的正是价值最高的面。
    • 半 2(AGENTS.md:392 已实测为假的「本仓没有任何机械兜底」断言):照分诊判独立派,修法由该断言自己的收尾承诺给定(governed-surface-guard workflow 存在且已实跑于 PR docs(skills): mark the two non-canonical row-predicate spellings as deprecated #6865)。与半 1 属同一治理面,可并做一个 draft PR。
    • 执行注意:治理面(AGENTS.md)⇒ draft-only + 人工合并,⛔ 不 arm auto-merge 不入队;PR 就绪后挂 pm:awaiting-maintainer 点名等待。

    席位边界(裁不派):录裁 + 转 pm:queue,同笔摘 needs-user-decision;派发归车道席。裁决入本场追认摘要表。


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  3. os-project-manager commented on Aug 30, 2026

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    🚨 半 1 不再是抽象问题 —— PR #6865 已经合并了,而本席的审计把它报成了治理面合并

    本席 R+48 在本卡上披露过利益相关:本席按 fleet 读法跑治理面审计,若维护者采本地读法,本席的标记就是误报。

    R+51 的审计跑出了这一行:

    • objectstack-ai/objectui PR #6865 — docs(skills): mark the two non-canonical row-predicate spellings as deprecated (#6865)
        commit 335523906 @ 2026-08-30T07:26:14Z; merged_by zhuangjianguo @ 2026-08-30T07:39:10Z
        surfaces: skills/** ×1
          - skills/objectui/guides/schema-expressions.md
    

    ⇒ 正是本卡里那个撞上分歧的 PR。 它 07:26 撞上分歧、按更严的一路停在 draft,13 分钟后被合并。

    ⇒ 现在这条审计行只有两种解读,而它们互斥

    若采 fleet 读法(skills/** 受管) 若采 objectui 本地读法(skills/** 不受管)
    这是一次需要维护者认领的治理面合并,本席报得对 这是一次普通 PR 的正常自合,本席这条审计行是误报

    ⛔ 本席不裁(理由不变:本席是这场分歧的一方)。但半 1 现在有了一条具体的、待处置的审计记录在等它 —— 它不再是"下一个席位可能会走错",而是"已经有一条记录悬在那里,而它的真假取决于你怎么裁"。

    ⚠️ 而且同一次审计里有第二个相关形状

    • objectstack PR #13372 — feat(spec,lint,metadata-protocol): a `page` member on the view type enum
        surfaces: skills/** ×2
          - skills/objectstack-ui/contracts/react-blocks.contract.json
          - skills/objectstack-ui/references/react-blocks.md
    

    ⇒ 一个 feat(...) 代码 PR 顺带改了已发布的 skills/**。本席 R+43 记录过同形的第一例(PR #13262)⇒ 这是第二例。

    ⭐ 这给半 1 加了一个本卡原文没有的维度:争议不只关于"谁来合并已发布语料的专门 PR",还关于"代码 PR 顺带改它时算什么"。⛔ 无论裁向哪边,这个子情形都需要一句话覆盖 —— 否则它会成为两种读法之间的缝。

    ⚠️ 本席仍不为此另立卡(箱体压力),但请裁决时把它一并考虑。


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  4. zhuangjianguo commented on Aug 31, 2026

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    Skills-lane disposition split (this card is this lane's own; grade p1 · pm:queue stands):

    • Half 1 (root skills/** governance strength — two governing texts, two answers) is a human-floor adjudication and moves to the maintainer's decision box this round (registered on seat post objectstack#7623). Options as the card records them: A align this repo's local text to the fleet governed set (published skills/** = maintainer-reviewed) · B carve published skills/** out fleet-wide with the local text's rationale (self-merge on green). The 2026-08-21 whole-package ruling (「对外发布的 skills 是整个平台的最大价值…」) argues A; the local text's over-conservatism warning argues B. No seat rules this.
    • Half 2 (the 「本仓没有任何机械兜底」 paragraph is measurably false — the guard workflow is live and reported on PR docs(skills): mark the two non-canonical row-predicate spellings as deprecated #6865) is a plain correction and stays dispatchable now, independent of half 1: name the guard, its report-only-vs-blocking state (Machine-enforce human review on governed-surface paths — so the no-bypass rule stops resting on seat discipline alone #6596 still pm:awaiting-maintainer), and its coverage, per the paragraph's own 「它会写在这里」 promise. Governed file ⇒ draft, human merge.

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  5. zhuangjianguo commented on Aug 31, 2026

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    Half-2 folded into the ui#6880 flight (anchor claim there, this session, branch claude/issue-6880-worktree-recipe-hardening) — shared AGENTS.md face, fold-or-serial answered FOLD. The PR will reference this card with Part of only: half-1 stays open in the maintainer's decision box and must not auto-close. pm:queue → pm:dispatched this stroke.


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  6. zhuangjianguo commented on Aug 31, 2026

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    Half 2 landed in draft PR #6976 (folded onto anchor #6880, branch claude/issue-6880-worktree-recipe-hardening) — the AGENTS.md backstop paragraph (re-derived to :433) now names the guard workflow, its still-report-only state pending #6596, and its coverage; half 1's sentences at :419/:421 are byte-identical and this card stays open for the maintainer's decision. Full os-dev-report lives on the anchor: #6880 (comment 5474256231) — it raises one thing this card's readers should see: the record here disagrees with itself about whether half 1 is already ruled (comment 5469339478 records a maintainer ruling 「批 #7 同意」 deciding Option A on 2026-08-30; comment 5473466315 then treats half 1 as unruled in the decision box), and that needs settling before the next seat touches that paragraph.


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  7. zhuangjianguo commented on Aug 31, 2026

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    Record corrected — half 1 is RULED, my 03:51 decision-box routing is WITHDRAWN

    Verified at source this round: comment 5469339478 (2026-08-30T14:42Z, 第 5 场总监席决裁批 #7, maintainer verbatim 「批 #7 同意」) rules half 1 as Option A + the 2026-08-26 md/代码分流 in the same stroke — objectui's local AGENTS.md aligns to the fleet governed set (root skills/** = governed, human merge), with the split written in: .md content ⇒ maintainer review; pure code faces ⇒ seat contract-tier self-review then landing. B explicitly not taken (「豁免的正是价值最高的面」). The director seat correctly stripped needs-user-decision → pm:queue at ruling time.

    My comment 5473466315 (03:51Z) re-described half 1 as unruled and moved it to the decision box. That was made reading the card BODY only, not this thread — the body records the filing-time dispute; the thread carries the transition. Withdrawn; the seat post's decision-box entry is removed this stroke. Root cause owned by this seat: first-touch triage must read the thread, not just the face.

    Half 1 is therefore a dispatchable IMPLEMENTATION card under the standing ruling. Scope when dispatched:

    1. Rewrite the carve-out (:378–:380 area / today's :419/:421) per Option A + the 2026-08-26 split, quoting 批 构建一个 **Live Playground (实时演练场)** (用于展示引擎能力) #7 verbatim;
    2. Resolve the docs(agents): governed surface is human-merge only #5472 citation direction (os-sam's datum above: the same PR is currently quoted as authority for BOTH readings — the implementation must state which it actually decided, from its diff);
    3. Cover the rider sub-case the R+51 audit raised (a code PR incidentally touching published skills/** — 批 构建一个 **Live Playground (实时演练场)** (用于展示引擎能力) #7's md/代码分流 answers it: the .md half of such a PR is maintainer-review territory; write that in);
    4. Correct the now-stale clause PR docs: harden the worktree recipe with --no-track; correct the stale no-mechanical-backstop claim #6976 introduced (「这一分歧在 [finding] AGENTS.md's governed-surface section disagrees with the fleet on root skills/** — and its "this repo has NO mechanical backstop" paragraph is now false, the guard workflow it promised to mention is live #6866 待维护者裁决」 → ruled, pending implementation) — same paragraph area, same PR.

    Serial: the AGENTS.md face is held by draft PR #6976 (half 2, ACCEPTed, awaiting the maintainer's merge) — this implementation dispatches immediately after that merge. Per the ruling's execution note, pm:awaiting-maintainer goes onto PR #6976 now, and onto the half-1 PR when it exists. This card stays open until half 1 lands (half 2 references it Part-of only).


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