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combine_by_coords can succed when it shouldn't #4824
combine_by_coords can succeed when it should not - depending on the name of the dimensions (which determines the order of operations in combine_by_coords).
combine_by_coords concatenates over all dimensions where the coords are different - therefore compat="override" doesn't actually do anything? Or does it?
Thanks @mathause . I'm not sure exactly how it ends up with that erroneous result, but I think it should be caught by adding the same check that would fix #4077? i.e. when it realises that 4 is not < 1e-06 it would throw an error.
Thanks for these examples @mathause , these are useful.
combine_by_coords does a merge and a concat (in the _combine_1d function). The order of these operations makes a difference to the result. See details.
Not sure if this is what you meant, but to be clear: _combine_1d is used by both combine_by_coords and combine_nested - whether it does a merge or a concat is dictated by the concat_dim argument passed. In both combine_by_coords and combine_nested a hypercube (or multiple hypercubes) of datasets is assembled, before the hypercubes are each collapsed into a single dataset by _combine_nd. Within combine_by_coords_combine_1d will only ever do concatenation, because _infer_concat_order_from_coords will only ever return a list of real dimensions as the concat_dims (as opposed to a None like combine_nested can accept from the user - a None means "please merge along this axis of the hypercube I gave you"). combine_by_coords then finishes off by merging the possible multiple collapsed hypercubes (so following the same logic as the original 1D auto_combine that it replaced).
merge leads to interlaced coords
concat leads to - well - concatenated coords
As far I can see here then concat is behaving perfectly sensibly, but merge is behaving in a way that conflicts with its documentation, which says "xarray.MergeError is raised if you attempt to merge two variables with the same name but different values". In ds0 and ds1lat has the same name but slightly different values - a MergeError should have been thrown, and so then combine_* would have thrown it too.
One question on the scope of combine_by_coords ...
aabbb
cccdd
This is a good question, but I'm 99% sure I didn't intend for either combine function to be able to handle this case. The problem with this case is that it's not order-invariant: you could concat aabbb together along x fine, and cccdd together fine, then both the results can be concatenated together along y (i.e. concat_dims=['x', 'y'], x then y). But if you tried y first then a and c have different sizes along the x direction, so you can't use concat on them (or you shouldn't be able to without introducing NaNs). It's possible that the checks are not sufficient to catch this case though.
Try comparing it to the behaviour of combine_nested: I think you'll find that it's only possible to arrange those datasets into the list-of-lists hypercube structure that's expected when you are doing x first then y, and not when doing y first then x.
xr.Merge has just allowed something through when it should have thrown an error,
Passing a sort of ragged hypercube can slip past the checks in combine_by_coords, though it was never intended to handle this case. This limitation also isn't very clearly documented.
Thanks for the thorough answer! Thus, we need to figure out if there is a "bug" in merge or if this has to be soved in combine_by_coords.
Disallowing "ragged hypercubes" certainly makes the problem much easier. Then we can say: "if two coords have the same start they need to be equal" (I think).
we need to figure out if there is a "bug" in merge
I don't actually know - this behaviour of merge seems wrong to me but it might be allowed given the changes to compatibility checks since I wrote combine_by_coords. @dcherian do you know?
Then we can say: "if two coords have the same start they need to be equal" (I think).
Yes exactly. Well, more specifically, "if they have the same start they need to be equal in length otherwise its a ragged hypercube, and if they have the same start, equal in length, but different values in the middle then it's a valid hypercube but an inconsistent dataset". It is currently assumed that the user passes a valid hypercube with consistent data, see this comment in _infer_concat_order_from_coords:
# Assume that any two datasets whose coord along dim starts
# with the same value have the same coord values throughout.
Though I realise now that I don't think this assumption is made explicit in the docs anywhere, instead it just talks about coords being monotonic.
If people pass "dodgy" hypercubes then this could currently fail in multiple ways (including silently), but the reason we didn't just actually check that the coords were completely equal throughout was because then you have to load all the actual values from the files, which could incur a significant performance cost. Adding a check of just the last value of each coord would help considerably (it should solve #4077), but unless we check every value then there will always be a way to silently produce a nonsense result by feeding it inconsistent data. We might consider some kind of flag for whether or not these checks should be done, which defaults to on, and users can turn off if they trust their data but want more speed.
this is the result of join="outer" which expands both datasets, and compat="no_conflicts" which picks the not-NaN value. These are both default values.
You can avoid this by setting join="override" which will skip the check.
which seems fine - that solves issue (1) doesn't it?
Your other example though @mathause, of allowing certain ragged arrays to pass through, presumably we still need a new check of some kind to disallow that?
I honestly don't really understand override well enough to reason about this at the moment. What would help me at least is to have a set of unit tests for this case: @mathause what exactly do we want it to do that it does not currently do?
For concat, join applies to all indexes that are not being concatenated (e.g. concat over time but override floating point differences in latitude). This is easy to understand for combine_nested.
I don't think it makes sense at all for combine_by_coords. If you want to override coordinate labels values for some dimensions you should have to do it manually. It seems easy to land up in weird edge-cases when you combine that with autoguessing behaviour.
Thanks @dcherian that helps. It does seem silly to be like "I'm going to use the coordinates to decide how everything should be concatenated, but I'm also happy to change some of those coordinate values whilst I'm combining". Does that mean we should just not to allow join='override' for combine_by_coords? I don't think that solves @mathause 's original problem though.
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TomNicholas commentedon Jan 31, 2021
Thanks @mathause . I'm not sure exactly how it ends up with that erroneous result, but I think it should be caught by adding the same check that would fix #4077? i.e. when it realises that 4 is not < 1e-06 it would throw an error.
mathause commentedon Feb 1, 2021
combine_by_coordsdoes amergeand aconcat(in the_combine_1dfunction). The order of these operations makes a difference to the result. See details.Details
merge leads to interlaced coords
concat leads to - well - concatenated coords
Yes I think I'd be interested to fix this...
One question on the scope of
combine_by_coords- consider the following example with 4 arrays ("a" through "d") arranged as follows:Or as
Dataset:Should that work or not?
Current behaviour
Currently it yields the following:
However, if
"x"is renamed to"z"it fails ("resulting coords not monotonic").TomNicholas commentedon Feb 1, 2021
Thanks for these examples @mathause , these are useful.
Not sure if this is what you meant, but to be clear:
_combine_1dis used by bothcombine_by_coordsandcombine_nested- whether it does a merge or a concat is dictated by theconcat_dimargument passed. In bothcombine_by_coordsandcombine_nesteda hypercube (or multiple hypercubes) of datasets is assembled, before the hypercubes are each collapsed into a single dataset by_combine_nd. Withincombine_by_coords_combine_1dwill only ever do concatenation, because_infer_concat_order_from_coordswill only ever return a list of real dimensions as theconcat_dims(as opposed to aNonelikecombine_nestedcan accept from the user - aNonemeans "please merge along this axis of the hypercube I gave you").combine_by_coordsthen finishes off by merging the possible multiple collapsed hypercubes (so following the same logic as the original 1Dauto_combinethat it replaced).As far I can see here then
concatis behaving perfectly sensibly, butmergeis behaving in a way that conflicts with its documentation, which says "xarray.MergeError is raised if you attempt to merge two variables with the same name but different values". Inds0andds1lathas the same name but slightly different values - a MergeError should have been thrown, and so thencombine_*would have thrown it too.This is a good question, but I'm 99% sure I didn't intend for either combine function to be able to handle this case. The problem with this case is that it's not order-invariant: you could concat
aabbbtogether along x fine, andcccddtogether fine, then both the results can be concatenated together along y (i.e. concat_dims=['x', 'y'], x then y). But if you tried y first thenaandchave different sizes along the x direction, so you can't use concat on them (or you shouldn't be able to without introducing NaNs). It's possible that the checks are not sufficient to catch this case though.Try comparing it to the behaviour of
combine_nested: I think you'll find that it's only possible to arrange those datasets into the list-of-lists hypercube structure that's expected when you are doing x first then y, and not when doing y first then x.TomNicholas commentedon Feb 1, 2021
tl;dr, I currently think there are two issues:
xr.Mergehas just allowed something through when it should have thrown an error,combine_by_coords, though it was never intended to handle this case. This limitation also isn't very clearly documented.mathause commentedon Feb 2, 2021
Thanks for the thorough answer! Thus, we need to figure out if there is a "bug" in
mergeor if this has to be soved incombine_by_coords.Disallowing "ragged hypercubes" certainly makes the problem much easier. Then we can say: "if two coords have the same start they need to be equal" (I think).
TomNicholas commentedon Feb 2, 2021
I don't actually know - this behaviour of
mergeseems wrong to me but it might be allowed given the changes to compatibility checks since I wrotecombine_by_coords. @dcherian do you know?Yes exactly. Well, more specifically, "if they have the same start they need to be equal in length otherwise its a ragged hypercube, and if they have the same start, equal in length, but different values in the middle then it's a valid hypercube but an inconsistent dataset". It is currently assumed that the user passes a valid hypercube with consistent data, see this comment in
_infer_concat_order_from_coords:Though I realise now that I don't think this assumption is made explicit in the docs anywhere, instead it just talks about coords being monotonic.
If people pass "dodgy" hypercubes then this could currently fail in multiple ways (including silently), but the reason we didn't just actually check that the coords were completely equal throughout was because then you have to load all the actual values from the files, which could incur a significant performance cost. Adding a check of just the last value of each coord would help considerably (it should solve #4077), but unless we check every value then there will always be a way to silently produce a nonsense result by feeding it inconsistent data. We might consider some kind of flag for whether or not these checks should be done, which defaults to on, and users can turn off if they trust their data but want more speed.
dcherian commentedon Feb 2, 2021
this is the result of
join="outer"which expands both datasets, andcompat="no_conflicts"which picks the not-NaN value. These are both default values.You can avoid this by setting
join="override"which will skip the check.TomNicholas commentedon Mar 30, 2021
Thanks @dcherian.
So passing
join='override'tocombine_by_coordsgives thiswhich seems fine - that solves issue (1) doesn't it?
Your other example though @mathause, of allowing certain ragged arrays to pass through, presumably we still need a new check of some kind to disallow that?
mathause commentedon Mar 31, 2021
But then it also overrides when it should concatenate...
out
Again if we set
x_name = "y"the following is returned:max-sixty commentedon May 12, 2021
Is there a reasonable way of preventing the ambiguity in
override? Do we need to make theconcat_dimexplicit?TomNicholas commentedon May 13, 2021
I honestly don't really understand
overridewell enough to reason about this at the moment. What would help me at least is to have a set of unit tests for this case: @mathause what exactly do we want it to do that it does not currently do?dcherian commentedon May 13, 2021
For
concat,joinapplies to all indexes that are not being concatenated (e.g. concat over time butoverridefloating point differences in latitude). This is easy to understand forcombine_nested.I don't think it makes sense at all for
combine_by_coords. If you want tooverridecoordinate labels values for some dimensions you should have to do it manually. It seems easy to land up in weird edge-cases when you combine that with autoguessing behaviour.TomNicholas commentedon May 13, 2021
Thanks @dcherian that helps. It does seem silly to be like "I'm going to use the coordinates to decide how everything should be concatenated, but I'm also happy to change some of those coordinate values whilst I'm combining". Does that mean we should just not to allow
join='override'forcombine_by_coords? I don't think that solves @mathause 's original problem though.dcherian commentedon May 13, 2021
I think so.
I suspect the original problem can only be solved by allowing approximate alignment within a specified tolerance.
mathause commentedon May 14, 2021
I add the example from #4753 (comment) here. I am not 100% if that is the same problem or not:
with
join="exact": error"left", "right", "inner", "override": ambiguous result"outer": sensible result